[Kzin]

haha, a buddy just e-mailed this one to me:

1/11/2006
Democrats Are Pussies and They're Getting Fucked:

The Rude Pundit's not nearly as old as Sammy Alito, but he remembers the day a couple of hot Socialist college girls walked into the university newspaper office and asked to talk to whoever would listen about subscribing to The Militant, the Socialist Workers Party newspaper. So the Rude Pundit and a male friend went out for drinks with the hot Socialist college girls, who were touring regional universities to drum up business for the Socialists. At the end of an evening of teasing, pleasing, and free love, the Rude Pundit, who not only flirted with socialists, but with socialism, gladly signed up for a few months of The Militant. Someone told the Rude Pundit that simply subscribing to the newspaper assured the Rude Pundit a file with the FBI - it was the late Reagan era. Which the Rude Pundit took as a badge of honor (and probably wasn't true). After the months were up, the Rude Pundit had moved on to The Nation and mainstream liberalism, and, well, the memory of the evening dimmed when the re-subscribing bill came in the mail.

The point here ain't that the Rude Pundit was blown into socialism. The point is that if someone asked him why he signed up for The Militant, he'd fucking remember it and remember why he did it. So when Sammy Alito says of the Concerned Alumni of Princeton that he has "no specific recollection of that organization," but then says why he may have joined it, he's a fuckin' weasel at best, a craven liar at worst. In fact, why not follow up with, "Well, Judgey, since you have no recollection of the CAP, a racist, sexist organization, might it be possible that you have no recollection of other groups you may have belonged to? Like the KKK? Or the White Aryan Resistance? You are a skinhead, Judge Alito. What about forgotten events? Like that ecstasy-fueled evening where you drove into Philadelphia and pissed on the Liberty Bell after jacking off on Independence Hall, screaming, 'Hey, Sam Adams, here's your beer back'? I mean, c'mon, who'd recollect that?"

But that kind of interrogation would take more than the dull, monotonous, barely comprehensible half-dribble of questions and speechifying the Democrats engaged in yesterday. (Would someone please tell Joe "Behold My Combover of Integrity" Biden to shut the fuck up if he's not gonna ask a goddamn question?) What we got from virtually every Democrat (and the allegedly "moderate" Republicans) was the sight of generously lubricated orifices just begging for a fucking from Republicans. Even Ted Kennedy was reduced to droning sonorously about the cases he wanted to discuss with Alito. Only Russ Feingold and Chuck Schumer got anything from Alito, with Feingold causing Alito to back into a corner like every mob stoolie Alito ever cut a plea deal with. Feingold got Alito to admit that he was wrong when he said that a "computer glitch" caused him to take on a case involving Vanguard companies, with whom Alito had nearly $400,000 invested.

Then there's Alito himself, who, if this was about 18 months ago, would be called a "flip-flopper." To quote Maureen Dowd (from today's column), "Is he the old Sam, who devised ways to upend Roe v. Wade and crimp abortion rights? Or the new Sam, who has great respect for precedent and an 'open mind' about abortion cases?

"Is he the old Sam, who plotted ways to tip the balance of power to the executive branch? Or the new Sam, who states that 'no person in this country is above the law, and that includes the president'?

"Is he the old Sam, who said Robert Bork 'was one of the most outstanding nominees of this century' and 'a man of unequaled ability'? Or the new Sam, who shrugged off that statement as the dutiful support of one Reagan appointee for another?"

Or, in other words, Alito is the typical conservative little bitch, who will lie openly about his beliefs in order to achieve power because he knows that the majority of the country (and the Senate, if so-called "moderate" Republicans actually existed) disagree with them. Goddamn, Ruth Bader Ginsburg fuckin' laid it all out there, love it or leave it, man. The crazed Robert Bork was willing to say, "Yes, I do fuck mothers," which took guts. And Alito is about as nutzoid as Bork; he just spits less when he expresses it. Or he claims he doesn't believe what he believes, which makes him a little yapping bitch.

The most absurd statement came from Senator John Cornyn, who claimed to Alito that Democrats "have already decided to vote against your nomination and are looking for some reason to do so." It's like saying, "Democrats have decided not to shove cucumbers up their asses" while you desperately try to get that green gourd all the way to your anxious prostate.

How about this for a Democratic strategy now and in the debate after - act like the general public is fuckin' sick of the Republicans and how they've led the nation. Act like Americans are begging for someone to stop the crazy train we're on. 'Cause if you can't pull the emergency brake, then you need to get thrown onto the tracks. Slam this motherfuckin' Alito for being the weaselly bastard he is. Stop making him into some noble, nice guy - fucker defended a warrantless strip search of a ten year-old - what more do you need? Remember: no one gives a shit beyond CNNMSNBCFox how badly Republicans slam Democrats for being "obstructionists." No one cares when Bush says the same thing. What the public will remember in November is that Democrats stood for something, that they drew a fuckin' line, man.

Dry yourselves off and slap those hard Republican cocks out of the way, or it's just gonna be another sad right wing rape.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2006/...nd-theyre.html

[Dakk]

[Kalad]

WOw



That was pretty kickass

[Son Gokuu]

The point here ain't that the Rude Pundit was blown into socialism. The point is that if someone asked him why he signed up for The Militant, he'd fucking remember it and remember why he did it. So when Sammy Alito says of the Concerned Alumni of Princeton that he has "no specific recollection of that organization," but then says why he may have joined it, he's a fuckin' weasel at best, a craven liar at worst. In fact, why not follow up with, "Well, Judgey, since you have no recollection of the CAP, a racist, sexist organization, might it be possible that you have no recollection of other groups you may have belonged to? Like the KKK? Or the White Aryan Resistance? You are a skinhead, Judge Alito. What about forgotten events? Like that ecstasy-fueled evening where you drove into Philadelphia and pissed on the Liberty Bell after jacking off on Independence Hall, screaming, 'Hey, Sam Adams, here's your beer back'? I mean, c'mon, who'd recollect that?"

what a fucking douche.

Without knowing a damn thing about what's going on with Alito other than the snipets I hear I can say that through my job I have joined Unions and groups and dropped in and out of them because the job required it. Could I tell you every organization I've been in in the last decade...pfff no. Half of em I didn't even fill out the paperwork, my company or the organization filled it out and I joined and paid my dues to get work from a specific lender.

Not every one joins groups to get laid. Not every republican is a racist. Dems have been far more racist recently in the appointments of people like Condy Rice than republicans have been. Going out on a limb I'd say most educated people in america are not racist. But it's good for dems to keep that myth alive and going, keep playing on that fear and stereotype and pretend like you guys are doing such a great service with your all white staffs and black church visits on election years.

Or, in other words, Alito is the typical conservative little bitch, who will lie openly about his beliefs in order to achieve power because he knows that the majority of the country (and the Senate, if so-called "moderate" Republicans actually existed) disagree with them. Goddamn, Ruth Bader Ginsburg fuckin' laid it all out there, love it or leave it, man.

OK lay down the crack pipe buddy. I'd rather have a conservative judge be open about his beliefs and fight over it. And ginsburg laying it all out there! OMFG LOLOLOLOLOL, they don't call it the "Ginsburg rule" for nothing dipshit.

[Knight of Ni]

He sounds like a disgruntled Vietnam vet.

YOU WEREN'T THERE, MAN! YOU WEREN'T FUCKIN THERE!

[Knight of Ni]

Hey SG, I don't think that guy reads these boards!

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by Knight of Ni

Hey SG, I don't think that guy reads these boards!

Obviously he doesn't read much of anything.

[Kalad]

I just liked how angry he was.


GRARANGRYGRARFUCFUCKSHITFUCKVAGINAGOURDGRAR

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by Kaladbolg

I just liked how angry he was.


GRARANGRYGRARFUCFUCKSHITFUCKVAGINAGOURDGRAR

Most liberals are angry.

[Kalad]

Originally Posted by Son Gokuu

Most liberals are angry.

Except the ones in power. They have no fucking fire left.

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by Kaladbolg

Except the ones in power. They have no fucking fire left.

Yeah they've all gone from shrill to pathetic.

[bad1]

Originally Posted by Son Gokuu

Yeah they've all gone from shrill to pathetic.

you can always count on SG to summarize old school

[Kzin]

Originally Posted by Son Gokuu

Most Americans who care whether their kids live in America or just a slightly whiter Mexico are angry.

Fixed

[Kalad]

Originally Posted by KzinKiller

Fixed

wtfracist?

[Blackferne]

Alito is doing fine. Judge him on his judicial record not on his association or nonassociation with a private group concerned about a private university.

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by KzinKiller

Fixed

YOU'RE A RACIST! RACIST! RACIST! RACIST! RACIST!

YOU BETTER WASH YOUR WHITE ROBES RACIST!

[Cerven]

Getting blinded by rage is what is causing Liberals to lose ground in Congress and the Presidency now. The American public is generally tired of the mudslinging, and while both sides actually do it, the Republicans tend to do it with a more subtle undertone, whereas the Democrats are getting downright blatant. It turns folks off - this kind of shit turns folks off. They feel like they're being talked down to, called idiots for being hesitant, and ultimately it just makes them shrug it off and walk away.

This just fuels the Republican fire, honestly.

[Kzin]

Originally Posted by Cerven Del'paro

Getting blinded by rage is what is causing Liberals to lose ground in Congress and the Presidency now. The American public is generally tired of the mudslinging, and while both sides actually do it, the Republicans tend to do it with a more subtle undertone, whereas the Democrats are getting downright blatant. It turns folks off - this kind of shit turns folks off. They feel like they're being talked down to, called idiots for being hesitant, and ultimately it just makes them shrug it off and walk away.

This just fuels the Republican fire, honestly.

Calling bullshit on bullshit is never partisan, but the bullshitter will always try to use that for cover.

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by Cerven Del'paro

Getting blinded by rage is what is causing Liberals to lose ground in Congress and the Presidency now. The American public is generally tired of the mudslinging, and while both sides actually do it, the Republicans tend to do it with a more subtle undertone, whereas the Democrats are getting downright blatant. It turns folks off - this kind of shit turns folks off. They feel like they're being talked down to, called idiots for being hesitant, and ultimately it just makes them shrug it off and walk away.

This just fuels the Republican fire, honestly.

The thing that pisses me off about both sides is letting obviously good ideas go by the wayside because of egos or just plain "I HATE BUSH SO I'M AGAINST EVERY IDEA HE HAS!".

The social security reform would have been awesome. Giving us partially privatized accounts would have caused an economic boom and a greater return on our invested money. People could have retired earlier and more comfortably. I hope all you guys have your own 401ks or IRAs now because the dems fucked your retirement just because they hate Bush. I wouldn't have cared if Howard "off my rocker" Dean had the idea I would have praised him for it. It's economically smart and has been proven in smaller economies to have a great impact on growth and wealth.

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by KzinKiller

Calling bullshit on bullshit is never partisan, but the bullshitter will always try to use that for cover.

Wow, every one behold Kzin! The only n00bsicle in America that doesn't think everything is based on partisanship now!

[Kzin]

Originally Posted by Son Gokuu

The social security reform would have been awesome. Giving us partially privatized accounts would have caused an economic boom and a greater return on our invested money.

The problem is that you have to trust the guys designing the program to put the nation's economic health above the private profit of their political cronies ... and to put that level of trust in Bush, Rove, et al. is a level of blind faith that Al Qaeda suicide bombers lack.

[Kalad]

i like tacos

[bad1]

Originally Posted by Blackferne

Alito is doing fine. Judge him on his judicial record not on his association or nonassociation with a private group concerned about a private university.

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by KzinKiller

The problem is that you have to trust the guys designing the program to put the nation's economic health above the private profit of their political cronies ... and to put that level of trust in Bush, Rove, et al. is a level of blind faith that Al Qaeda suicide bombers lack.

Oh yeah, them giving US a CHOICE of where to put OUR money is such a bad freaking idea. Yeah you're right Kzin, we should all retire at 80.

[Blackferne]

Originally Posted by 1bade wok

I thought you'd like that.

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by Blackferne

I thought you'd like that.

It was almost believable. From the Kennedy clip I heard it sounded like he used your donation on Scotch before his questioning.

[Kalad]

Who donates to campaigns of corrupt puppets?

[Blackferne]

Originally Posted by Son Gokuu

It was almost believable. From the Kennedy clip I heard it sounded like he used your donation on Scotch before his questioning.

SO I'm getting that much closer to passing off as a real GATCon?

[Kzin]

Originally Posted by Son Gokuu

Oh yeah, them giving US a CHOICE of where to put OUR money is such a bad freaking idea. Yeah you're right Kzin, we should all retire at 80.

If you can't dispute what I did say (corruption & cronyism at the heart of the administration), throw out some absurd hyperbole I never said to start a tangent.

Olde.

[Blackferne]

Originally Posted by KzinKiller

If you can't dispute what I did say (corruption & cronyism at the heart of the administration), throw out some absurd hyperbole I never said to start a tangent.

Olde.

Weren't the private accounts supposed to be run by the same people who run the Federal Employee retirement account system? Impartial thrid party selected by Congress and not the Presdient?

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by KzinKiller

If you can't dispute what I did say (corruption & cronyism at the heart of the administration), throw out some absurd hyperbole I never said to start a tangent.

Olde.

I can dispute what you're saying, but what your saying is absurd. They give us a choice. Now given I know you know nothing about economics, since you rent and everything but if they gave us a choice of 3 companies to buy intrests in then all of those stocks will go up, regardless of cronyism and corruption.

If you don't want to use your private account to buy Haliburton (not that that would be one of the choices, I beileve they stated government agencies or subsidaries as options but that's what Kzin is getting at, same old stupid shit), then don't. I fucking will. It also gives you the option of keeping your current social security as is with it's 1-3% overall rate of return, so if you don't want to invest then don't, I'll be raking in my 10-20% rate of return.

[bad1]

Originally Posted by Blackferne

Weren't the private accounts supposed to be run by the same people who run the Federal Employee retirement account system? Impartial thrid party selected by Congress and not the Presdient?

You are going to accidentally turn yourself

[Kalad]

i say we burn down the treasury and take all the money

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by 1bade wok

You are going to accidentally turn yourself

WORD! That was awesome Blackie. I like you much better this way.

[Son Gokuu]

Also Kzin if you wanted more assurance against government corruption you could privatize the whole thing. Does that sound like a good idea or are people too stupid to manage their own money?

[Kzin]

Originally Posted by Son Gokuu

but if they gave us a choice of 3 companies to buy intrests in then all of those stocks will go up

You're willing to say something as absurd as that and accuse me of lacking an awareness of economics? Ballsy yapping.

Nobody is preventing you from investing in the investments of your choice with your discretionary income, and nobody is proposing it.

There are 2 questions: should we have a Social Security system with post-retirement benefits AT ALL, and if we do, should it divert some portion of its funding from guaranteed-return instruments to speculative-return instruments?

There is no such thing as guaranteed return in the market, especially not in the long-term. So, who picks up the tab when people make stupid choices in this system? The good ol' taxpayer. Who makes guaranteed money regardless? Stockbrokers and sharp execs who are good at starting up public companies, then pumping & dumping their stock.

So, since we're talking about billions & billions of dollars being diverted into private trading organizations that have demonstrated the business ethics of starving hyenas over the last decade, and betting part of the health of our economy and the post-retirement health & welfare of millions of citizens on their integrity, I'm going to keep my head out of the sand and maintain healthy skepticism of the weasels in government who think this is such a great idea.

And I'll continue to diversify my own investments on the assumption that Social Security will be ruined by these jerks long before I have any possibility of collecting.

[Dakk]

Originally Posted by 1bade wok

You are going to accidentally turn yourself

"Yes... yes. He would be a powerful ally."

"He will join us, or die.

[Son Gokuu]

Originally Posted by KzinKiller

You're willing to say something as absurd as that and accuse me of lacking an awareness of economics? Ballsy yapping.

Nobody is preventing you from investing in the investments of your choice with your discretionary income, and nobody is proposing it.

There are 2 questions: should we have a Social Security system with post-retirement benefits AT ALL, and if we do, should it divert some portion of its funding from guaranteed-return instruments to speculative-return instruments?

There is no such thing as guaranteed return in the market, especially not in the long-term. So, who picks up the tab when people make stupid choices in this system? The good ol' taxpayer. Who makes guaranteed money regardless? Stockbrokers and sharp execs who are good at starting up public companies, then pumping & dumping their stock.

So, since we're talking about billions & billions of dollars being diverted into private trading organizations that have demonstrated the business ethics of starving hyenas over the last decade, and betting part of the health of our economy and the post-retirement health & welfare of millions of citizens on their integrity, I'm going to keep my head out of the sand and maintain healthy skepticism of the weasels in government who think this is such a great idea.

And I'll continue to diversify my own investments on the assumption that Social Security will be ruined by these jerks long before I have any possibility of collecting.

The model has been tested and proven in two different instances. One was a county in texas the other was a country in south america, Chile, I believe where economic growth boomed to around 25% per year if I remember right. People retire earlier, and wealthier. Also the stocks you have to choose from are pretty safe and the portion of your account that's invested is very small percentage of your overall social security, 13% if I remember right so it's not like you're going to go broke with 87% of your money still in the normal social security plan. Starting to make sense now a little bit? There are safegaurds to the plan and it's not entirely privatized. The boom of new investors will cause a more money in the market and will cause it to increase. More money = more growth = more jobs = more wealth

[Blackferne]

Originally Posted by 1bade wok

You are going to accidentally turn yourself

The problem with the private accounts wasn't that there is "a risk of cronyism", but rather that it still generates less overall return than what you could get through a REAL private account. The way it was suggested was that people could choose from like 3 or 4 basic plans. But since we had no choice in payment towards these plans they basically would pick nothing but reliable industries. Which is dangerous in a transitory economy (like we are in) where old industries may no longer be as stable with the introduction of new technologies. But people will err on the side of "well its been there for a while, let's stick with it". What do you think happened to the horse buggy industry when cars started showing up? (1bade should remember this) If you want a real reform, give people the chance to opt out of this system and go straight to Vanguard or Fidelity where instead of 3 or 4 banal choices, I can get 100 diferent funds to choose from.

[Kzin]

Originally Posted by Son Gokuu

There are safegaurds to the plan and it's not entirely privatized. The boom of new investors will cause a more money in the market and will cause it to increase. More money = more growth = more jobs = more wealth

Yes, all the time I hear people say "I wish our economy was more like Chile's ..."

More money in the market means some brokers get rich. It shifts around capital. But it is sleight of hand to say it's going to inevitably result in 'more growth' ...

If that money is in guaranteed-return instruments, what is the bank that sold the instruments doing with the capital? Loaning it out to small and large businesses, homeowners, car buyers, etc. It's pure speculation to say that shrinking that pool of capital and growing the capital available to brokerages and publically traded start-ups gives you net growth in jobs or economy.

Once again, I'm all in favor of private investment in search of a higher rate of return, but there's no free lunch here -- the higher rate you seek, the higher your risk of not getting it. Social Security is a safety net, not a magic box to make people rich, and any politician who tries to sell privatization as a way of 'guaranteeing' double-digit returns should be thrown out a Wall Street window.