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Old 06-27-2006, 03:23 PM   #1
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So my grandparents never had anything to do with me..well no more than they had to.

Growing up *if* I got anything ever from them, it was weeks after the event..say for v-day, I'd get the old 'on sale' candy..bday's..normally just a card.

Yes, they had plenty of money and spent it on the boy grandkids.

So anywho, recently my uncle discovered that his dad (my grandpa) was molesting his sons while they were babysitting. Fucking horrible, but I've pretty much always hated my grandpa forever anyway, so I was all whatever...

Now any time my mother tries to tell me about all of this case, she always talks about him as "the molester", "the pervert" blah blah..drives me fucking insane.. HE HAS A NAME YOU FAT SLOB

So anywho...yesterday I get a letter in the mail from my grandmother. I sent her a Christmas card (to see if I'd get a reaction..this was before we found out about him molesting the kids)..and she was saying she's sorry for not writing sooner, I have a beautiful family blah blah balh be happy in all I do.

I was shocked, so I called my parents. My mom immediatly went off on a rampage about how they must just be trying to "help the molester" by getting me to write back a friendly letter.

This could have been a concern, but not once does the letter mention my grandfather, nor is it even "signed" by him..only "grandma moore".

Mom also went off on a tangent about how grandma was defending "the old pervert" and how disgusting that was. Which on one hand I agree BUT she's been with my grandpa since she was like 16...she's also terrified of him. She tried to leave him once but came back..so if she doesn't have the balls to leave him, like she's going to do it now...after 4 strokes. PLUS if she had no clue about this, it's a natural human reaction not to want to believe it.

So anywho...should I write her back with some updates and pics? Even though our relationship has always been awful, if she (not my grandpa) would like to meet my daughter..I'm ok with that. Or should I just toss the letter and go along with the omgbigconspiracy theory?













*on a side note - my grandpa is technically certified insane. they get phat gov money on it. he's tried to kill both my mom and my dad numerous times.. what a great family
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:27 PM   #2
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:27 PM   #3
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:28 PM   #4
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I wouldnt necessarily shut out grandma because grandpa is a perv. But obviously be careful.
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why?

what pleasure are you getting out of this? what benefit are you getting out of this?

you have no reason to sacrafice your time and effort to put towards them when they didnt do the same to you when you were a child.

you do whats best for your child. my opinion, those people arent whats best for them.


You can do the whole nice family thing if you want. I just dont always see the point.
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why?

what pleasure are you getting out of this? what benefit are you getting out of this?

you have no reason to sacrafice your time and effort to put towards them when they didnt do the same to you when you were a child.

you do whats best for your child. my opinion, those people arent whats best for them.


You can do the whole nice family thing if you want. I just dont always see the point.
Jay allow me.

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like she's going to do it now...after 4 strokes. had plenty of money and spent it on the boy grandkids.
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why?

what pleasure are you getting out of this? what benefit are you getting out of this?

you have no reason to sacrafice your time and effort to put towards them when they didnt do the same to you when you were a child.

you do whats best for your child. my opinion, those people arent whats best for them.


You can do the whole nice family thing if you want. I just dont always see the point.
Basically, I missed out on having grandparents. My grandpa on my mom's side was dead before I was born, and grandma died when I was 6 (I watched her die ) With dad's side, we always tried to make it work, but it just never did..so we finally gave up.

Anywho, I'm not expecting some joyful reunion..or putting a lot of time into it. I do know though when people get old, they realize their mistakes sometimes..maybe that's what it is, and she's trying to make amends before she finally dies..or maybe she's doing what mom is saying.

I figured I could write a neutral letter, saying I was surprised to get it, since they never mentioned receiving the card to my parents...if I get a response, then maybe I'll push it...if not, then no real loss.

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What your mom isn't telling you is that gramps did it with her when she was a little girl, too.
No, he's on my dad's side. He's always hated my dad.. in fact dad has a steel plate in his head from when my grandpa ran over him with a boat when he was a little kid. Grandpa also tried to run over him with a lawn mower when dad was too small to walk, only reason he didn't is grandma saw him.
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Dna don't take this the wrong way but you talking about your fucked up family lets me feel as if mine is not the only fucked up one.
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:40 PM   #15
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Yes but very mild. Mainly the paranoia separation of reality.


Like how i know your all plotting..something...
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Basically, I missed out on having grandparents. My grandpa on my mom's side was dead before I was born, and grandma died when I was 6 (I watched her die ) With dad's side, we always tried to make it work, but it just never did..so we finally gave up.

Anywho, I'm not expecting some joyful reunion..or putting a lot of time into it. I do know though when people get old, they realize their mistakes sometimes..maybe that's what it is, and she's trying to make amends before she finally dies..or maybe she's doing what mom is saying.

I figured I could write a neutral letter, saying I was surprised to get it, since they never mentioned receiving the card to my parents...if I get a response, then maybe I'll push it...if not, then no real loss.



No, he's on my dad's side. He's always hated my dad.. in fact dad has a steel plate in his head from when my grandpa ran over him with a boat when he was a little kid. Grandpa also tried to run over him with a lawn mower when dad was too small to walk, only reason he didn't is grandma saw him.
AMY

YOU WROTE THE LETTER FIRST



ALL SHE DID WAS REPLY




HOW IS SHE MAKING WRONGS RIGHT?



you are overplaying her side in this because you want her to love you. face reality, it probably isnt gonna happen.


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i didn't write anything on the christmas card she doesn't even know john's name or alessandra's she mentions it in the letter

all i wrote was "merry christmas, the gaerlans"

i wanted to see if grandpa would call dad pissed off that dad let me marry someone that wasn't white
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i didn't write anything on the christmas card she doesn't even know john's name or alessandra's she mentions it in the letter

all i wrote was "merry christmas, the gaerlans"

i wanted to see if grandpa would call dad pissed off that dad let me marry someone that wasn't white
you think she really cares because she found out what your daughters name is?

she wouldnt have written you had you not sent her something first.




i hate to be the geraldo here. but its true.
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i know i know! sheesh

she still doesn't know her name, i haven't written her shit yet jay. THAT WAS MY POINT!

i didn't expect a letter back, it shocked me that i got one. i don't respond to ever peice of mail that i get!
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i know i know! sheesh

she still doesn't know her name, i haven't written her shit yet jay. THAT WAS MY POINT!

i didn't expect a letter back, it shocked me that i got one. i don't respond to ever peice of mail that i get!
hey, did she come see you in chicago?



i dont think so.




what would have happened if they did? what if you touched your grandpas leg?



you would have gotten lucky that night.


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because I honestly didn't think you were crazy enough to be the other things, I GUESS I WAS WRONG, EH!?
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No, he's on my dad's side. He's always hated my dad.. in fact dad has a steel plate in his head from when my grandpa ran over him with a boat when he was a little kid. Grandpa also tried to run over him with a lawn mower when dad was too small to walk, only reason he didn't is grandma saw him.
uh, then he's dangerously psychotic and I probably wouldn't have anything to do with him unless he was getting some serious treatment
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Old 06-27-2006, 04:51 PM   #33
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WHY DO YOU THINK I"M BIPOLAR!
according to my dad, bipolar disorder is gonna be the new ADD.
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Old 06-27-2006, 05:39 PM   #34
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I think it would probaly be hard on your granny and technically she didn't do anything wrong so I don't see what harm writing to her is, you don't have to write a "hearts and kisses I wuv u so much letter" or anything like that.
You said you don't really have anything to do with them but your granda really need help if not for his sake but for others if he is violent etc.
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according to my dad, bipolar disorder is gonna be the new ADD.
Then why don't you go fuck your mother?
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Then why don't you go fuck your mother?
what? What are you talking about?
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That time you stuck it in your mother while your dad was sitting on the hemp chair reading Highlights Magazine for Children and I was standing on table in a bright red jumpsuit was greeeaaat.
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your mom has always sounded off kilter. Send something back to your grandma, why not? She's the only one that signed it. Just leave your grandfather out of it.
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What state are you from, dnal?
missouri
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uh, then he's dangerously psychotic and I probably wouldn't have anything to do with him unless he was getting some serious treatment
don't plan on doing anything with him.

and to whoever said it..yes he only really likes little boys.

SG - yeah my mom is a bit of a whack job..I'll probably write a short note, nothing mushy and see what comes of it.
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hmmmm. I see.
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