[WerrtZer]

Okay so whilst looking over some sites about Bush's movements on 9/11 I came across a pretty detailed page that references all it's sources with links to actual news articles, government documents etc. Trouble is most of the links are now 404s or lead back to the site so it stinks a bit but I still give it a little creedence...
Now this is one long sucker of a page and it's worth a read, but I was surprised by one paragraph in particular about a 1/4 of the way into it, and was even more surprised that I hadn't heard anything about this before. Maybe it's all cooincidence and BS, maybe there's something to it...I honestly don't know. Anyways here's the paragraph I'm on about; (none of the embedded links will copy/paste here so if you want to try and follow them you have to visit the URL of thios page which I'll post in a second)

An Assassination Attempt?

Bush awoke a little before 6:00 a.m. on September 11, pulled on shorts and an old T-shirt and laced up his running shoes. [CBS, 11/1/02] At 6:30 a.m., Bush, a reporter friend, and his Secret Service crew took a four-mile jog in the half-light of dawn around a nearby golf course. [Washington Post, 1/27/02, Washington Post, 09/11/01]

At about the same time Bush was getting ready for his jog, a van carrying several Middle Eastern men pulled up to the Colony's guard station. The men said they were a television news crew with a scheduled "poolside" interview with the president. They asked for a certain Secret Service agent by name. The message was relayed to a Secret Service agent inside the resort, who hadn't heard of the agent mentioned or of plans for an interview. He told the men to contact the president's public relations office in Washington, DC, and had the van turned away. [Longboat Observer, 9/26/01]

The Secret Service may have foiled an assassination attempt. Two days earlier, Ahmed Shah Massoud, leader of Afghanistan's Northern Alliance, had been murdered by a similar ruse. Two North African men, posing as journalists from "Arabic News International," had been requesting an interview with Massoud since late August. Ahmad Jamsheed, Massoud's secretary, said that by the night of September 8, "they were so worried and excitable, they were begging us." An interview was arranged for the following day. As it began, a bomb hidden in the video camera exploded, killing the two journalists. Massoud was rushed by helicopter to a hospital in Tajikistan, but was pronounced dead on arrival (although his death was not acknowledged until September 15). [International Policy Institute for Counter-Terrorism, 10/30/01, Newsday, 10/26/01] The assassination is widely believed to have been timed to remove the Taliban's most popular and respected opponent in anticipation of the backlash that would occur after the 9/11 attacks. [BBC, 9/10/01, BBC, 9/10/01 (B), Time, 8/4/02, St. Petersburg Times, 9/9/02] The Northern Alliance blamed al-Qaeda and the ISI, Pakistan's secret service, for the attacks. [Radio Free Europe, 9/10/01, Newsday, 9/15/01, Reuters, 10/4/01]

Nearly three hours after the incident at the Colony, another Longboat Key resident reported a run-in with possibly the same men. At about 8:50 (when reports of the first World Trade Center crash were first broadcast), while standing on the Sarasota bay front waiting for the presidential motorcade to pass by, this man saw two Middle Eastern men in a dilapidated van "screaming out the windows 'Down with Bush' and raising their fists in the air." The FBI questioned the man, but it's not known if this was the same van that had visited the Colony. [Longboat Observer, 9/26/01]

Later on the morning of September 11, the Secret Service searched a Sarasota apartment looking for further corroboration of Zainlabdeen Omer's report of an assassination threat. Three Sudanese men were questioned for about ten hours. The Secret Service also raided a beauty supply store in Sarasota, whose owner, identified as "Hakim," told the agents that "Ghandi" was a member of the Sudanese People's Liberation Army, a group fighting against the fundamentalist Muslim government in Sudan. [Hopsicker, 7/22/02]

Monica Yadav of Sarasota's ABC News 40 reported that a few days after the Secret Service visit, the beauty supply store was closed up and Hakim was long gone. Yadav also learned that Zainlabdeen Omer had suddenly quit his jobs and vacated his apartment. "All I know is he can't leave town," a friend of Omer's told Yadav. "Omer got in a lot of trouble with the law." The Special Agent in charge of the Presidential detail in Sarasota told Yadav that Bush was never in any danger and the various warnings and possible terrorist connections were all "just a coincidence." [Hopsicker, 7/22/02] Yet, as we will see below, there are more details of a threat against Bush before he left Sarasota.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/t...estingday.html


So did I just miss this when it was in the news? With all that was going on at the time, I could see how. Stuff like the Presidents movements later that day looks more reasonable in light of these "facts". Matbe it's just a load of crap dreamt up to make it seem less critical of the Commander in Chief

But the main reason I came across that essay is that it trys to shed light on when the president actually became knowledgable of the events unfolding that tuesday morning and the whole thing about the possib;e forewarning....we're all familiar with the scene in Fahrenheit where Bush sits for 7 minutes reading a story to a child.....and there is very little hard fact out there as to what exact timeline events did take that day.

I'm not trying to troll here or anything or putting on my liberal hippy hat...this whole thing just rings my bell.

Here's another quote that needs to be taken in context, but is interesting on it's own;

Flight 93 wasn't hijacked until about 9:16, but by about 8:50, it was clear that at least three planes had been hijacked. Vice President Dick Cheney, speaking on NBC's Meet the Press, said, "The Secret Service has an arrangement with the FAA. They had open lines after the World Trade Center was ..." [Meet the Press, 9/16/01] Cheney never finished his sentence (interesting in itself - did he say too much?), but it seems safe to say that his next word would have been "hit." Cheney's statement makes it clear the Secret Service knew the extent of the situation well before 9:00 am.

You'd need to read further into the essay to get the context but they're basically trying to pick aaprt the story that Bush wasn't told anything until the guy comes in and talks into his ear for a second prior to the book reading.

It's all as thin as ~FA~ on a crash diet butamkes for more interesting readin than 99% of the shit I've happened across tonight. Pick holes in it at your will or consign it to the cyber trashheap...

[Traged G-Unit]

you guys REALLY don't want to hear my take on 9/11, and I don't fancy spending the rest of my life in Guantanamo for saying it eather

[Knight of Ni]

TEH GOVERNMENT FIRED ZE MISSILES INTO THE PENTAGON

[Kzin]

Occam's Razor

[Pearl Campbell]

Originally Posted by Traged-G

you guys REALLY don't want to hear my take on 9/11, and I don't fancy spending the rest of my life in Guantanamo for saying it eather

I'd like to hear it.

[Arzen]

Originally Posted by Traged-G

you guys REALLY don't want to hear my take on 9/11, and I don't fancy spending the rest of my life in Guantanamo for saying it eather

What? Like: "9/11 gave America a much needed wake-up call for being such assholes?" Or: "The terrorists were justified for bombing the WTC due to the USA's slow rape of their culture and resources?" or: "ALIENS! IT WAS ALIENS, MAN! THEY FIRED DEATH RAYS AT WTC! OMG LAZERS PEW PEW PEW"?

[Gravy]

Originally Posted by Arzen

What? Like: "9/11 gave America a much needed wake-up call for being such assholes?" Or: "The terrorists were justified for bombing the WTC due to the USA's slow rape of their culture and resources?" or: "ALIENS! IT WAS ALIENS, MAN! THEY FIRED DEATH RAYS AT WTC! OMG LAZERS PEW PEW PEW"?

Probably: The Republicans hired the terrorists to bomb the trade center to justify invading two sovereign nations.

Misdirection, Stan, misdirection.